let go or fight for it? It also works the other way. In the second house of values, beware . Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his. Eventually, some of their views may clash and this can . Moon and Mars both Trine Uranus. One valuable lesson I learned is to refrain being attached to an outcome with him. Its pretty rare. Please enlighten me.. Usually, when the 12th house is heavily involved, whether it be a natal chart, a comparison, or a composite, the message is to let go. Much depends on the relationship of the 12th house planets to one another. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Thrown/compelled into a private relationship that feels confusing and unavoidable at the same time. We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. Lilith in 8 th house composite. Thank you for reading and I hope this story helps reveal more about the 12th house in composites. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. IP: Logged. If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. What you are fascinated by is your own longing to acknowledge and feel this power. I do use the Black Moon Lilith in my composites, but what she represents there is a whole article of its own. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. We met one day and it was ON, mutual, and understood without saying word. In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. I am in a very confused place myself right now, wanting to forgive, still loving her, but not understanding her and whether healing her childhood wounds will bring her attraction back, or if its got something more to do with me and something I need to let go of. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. Now, what to think of this powerful symbolism in the composite chart? Noticed he has moved on and I want to let go and move on too, hoping that the story will not repeat itself again. what can we do here? (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) Lilith in the 12th House. From what you said, it seems like perhaps these give the relationship an element of commitment, partnership, and longevity that it wouldnt otherwise have albiet in an unusual, community-oriented way. Lilith in Synastry. We went through hell together, we loved each other, we saved each other, we saved others together, we could practically feel and read one another. In a negative way, the struggles within the partnership will cause the Pluto person to see where his or her behaviour needs adjusting. Venus is the planet of love which makes him lovable by his likable behavior and persuasive way of talking. So, the composite Venus and Saturn are also in the 12th house. The 12th house really gives you an opportunity to see behind the veil in such a powerful and beautiful way, to understand not only our existence in this lifetime, but our collective reason and the inner workings of the universe itself and the karmic bonds that we have formed with soul family that have traveled this journey with us for many many lifetimes. People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. The Sun person sees in the 11th house person someone, who they can spend pleasant time with. If I murdered this illusion, it would be like if I murdered my own soul ; I just cant . Sometimes we will be asked to make leaps of faith. In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. Im in hawaii for a month, after he broke up with me for the last time, trying to get my strength and sanity back and assure myself that you should not have to TRY so hard for things to work, when these 12th issues come up to work on. My takeaway is that the two people involved would think the relationship was hidden (and something for just them) but its not really because of the nature of the Asc Conjunctions. In synastry, the house the Moon is in will show the area of life that someone touches another on a deep and personal level. It isnt bad, its difficult. The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. You explain the ineffable. Astro-Seek.com Seek and meet people born on the same date as you . Mars also squares Mercury, Venus, Pluto and Saturn. I live a bliss and despair relation for about 2 years but definite we are totally different persons than before met each other (we are old enough!). Lilith in the 12th house are really good at hiding their "lilith" nature and because of this they are usually popular. Love for loves sake wont fly with the 12th house. I was with him longer than Ive ever consecutively been with someone- 1 1/2 years. Overall, this is considered a favorable Lilith placement, as it is . These are just a few of the synastry aspects. Please your opinion. This will tell you the energy sounding the ending. Venus/Uranus is difficult in the composite, but it doesnt explain your obsession. He told me he had butterflies I did too.his nn is conjunct my ascendant. And they might move next year to another town because of their son so I am already dying from the thought that I will not see him after that. Its impossible to do one without composites or progressed composites. Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! Hi Daw Moon in Aries/7th, Saturn in the 5th/Aquarius. This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. Also, forgive my double Virgo and the fact that I was once an editor: the phrase is unrequited love not unrequired. Sorry. Conjunct the composite 1st House cusp, it can be difficult to separate mutual fantasy from reality regarding the identity of the relationship. We need strong, healthy egos to accomplish what weve come to do in this life, but we need to act according to what is wanted of us, not against it. He says what on thinking. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). When composite Lilith is placed in the eighth house of the composite chart, this makes the relationship between the two people very intense. We are both married similar age kids. Lilith in 12th House: 5 Key Takeaways. The inner planets are where we liveso yes, the 10th house stellium will have more influence on a day to day basis, and then once in a while the outer planets will come out to grab us with whatever their issues are, particularly by transit or progression to the stellium/12th. He is a pisces/cap/aquar with cap moon in 12th house. Sure someone up there wants to teach me a lesson (again!). Transit Uranus in the Composite 12th House. Sun/Uranus conjunct in the 1st. A recent class in assassins revealed that the victims often had many planets in the shooters 12th house. Ive known couples who are married for long periods of time to have 12th house composites. I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) He seems very able to detach himself and move to the future. Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. Dawn, thank you for writing this article. The trauma you have experienced can be in relationships. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. Overall the chart has a heavy emphasis on the 10-12 houses, and no planets at all in the 5-9 houses, with the exception of Chiron in the 8th house (which sextiles the MC and trines the Moon/Mars as well). The romantic synastric analysis is the interaction of houses between two birth charts. You might have a relationship that was so intense, which left you hurting. With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. I thought that because of the 8th house or vertex, I forced him to confront his own dark side. We are fated, but we are meant to part. MUCH APPRICIATED- i am forever greatful for your insights. The Pluto struggle with the ego and power will engage with the partners planetsin a positive way, the partner can become a guide. We dont really grasp whats in the 12th until we spiritualize it, remove the ego from the planets function. What do you think? You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. What is your thought on this. He is my best friend but marriage to him has been so disappointing because theres not much difference between now and when I was single. His 12th is in Pisces, along with his Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. I felt like someone kicked me out of my home. My natal venus is in the 12 th house. Besides, his vertex conjunct with my sun and oppose w/ my moon. Have you any thoughts or words to share on the 12th house commonalities we have individually, and what impact it lends to us as a couple? I am a strong 12th house person- the sun in Libra conjunct Pluto/Mercury in Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio widely conjunct my Scorpio ascendent (I told you I was intense) and he has no planets in the 12th. There is still a sense that anything can happen though, very unpredictable energy. It is commonly thought that the Moon governs emotions and intuition, and it does. I and my boyfriend have conjunction of mars-venus in twelfth house (taurus) closely conjuncting composite gemini ascendant. Thank you for this article. Any advice would be helpful. The Anti-Vertex, on the other hand, is located in the opposite house of the Vertex (the 11 th , 12 th , 1 st , 2 nd , or 3 rd houses), which relate to personal concerns . The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. With composite Pluto in their 9th house, danger lies in dogmatism. Look at poor Kurt Cobain, who is the poster boy for this aspect. She becomes the energy that stands in our way even as she offers dark gifts. Saturn and Pluto also play their part. It contains everything and nothing . 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. Sorry Shannon, Dawn passed away a couple of years ago. you are right on target- although I forgot to mention that our trine is in 4th,8th and 12th you are an amazing teacher and your articales on your site have helped me tremendously. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. Hi Dawn, are you able to give me anymore insight or know where I might find more information about 12th house stellium in cancer planets are sun,moon,Mercury and Venus in my husband and my composite chart. His sun, mercury and chiron is in the 12 house in his natal chart. . In our composite chart, Mars in 12th house Cancer square MC conjunct Mercury(10th) and the Sun, Venus(9th) & Mars square IC conjunct Saturn and Pluto(3rd). Just as the Sun is the Luminary of the day, the Moon is the Luminary of the night. When transit Saturn is in the composite 12th house, you may feel that old issues or subconscious issues in the relationship become more of a problem, and need to be worked on, understood, and moved on from. This year in April we were introduced to each other by our mates. . And you may then limit yourself for years, into oblivion. Anything different there? He also has 12th house stellium in his own natal chart in Scorpio. I became reacquainted with a man I grew up with. Oh, and we have a 7 year old son. I just am hesitating. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about loving and letting go interests me a lot. The Autumn Schedule is Here! Thank you very much Dawn. Telepathy, visiting one another out of body, lucid dreaming where they communicate with one another, strange psychic links and melding of the two energetic bodies. VENUS IN HOUSE TWELVE Venus in the 12th house cultivates a spiritually profound form of love and a desire to experience love on a higher level. i give it much meaning because i really feel a psychic connection and a karmic fate, but again that could be just me since i have a heavy neptune but nothing in my natal 12th. Wow very insightful thank you so much, I love your writing!! Your emotions may also be cloudy and unclear at times, and your lack of boundaries may cause you trouble. We are very romantic together and trust each other. Similarly, the 4th house is used for Gemini, and information is extracted by reading it in the Natal charts. Hi WhitelotusI use both the Midpoint and the Davison charts in synastry. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. The south node lies there on the natal composite. Oh wow, Im glad to be reading this after the fact. Mine is conjunct with his moon. What gives a better idea of the relationship potential, synastry or composite? The working dynamic of the partnership is in the biwheel (how do you make me feel?) I think the fact that were both artists gave this aspect an outlet. clearly the 1st has the most planets, but you said the sun was the essence of the chart,its in scorpio in the 12 house. Impossible to comment without seeing both charts. Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. So beautifully written Dawn. Thank you for your insight. November 9, 2012 astrologyanonymous27. They might be very sneaky and test people a lot. Am I right in deducing that this relationship is more of an initiation? But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile. We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. He knows me better than I know myself at times. Eventually, we learn that life is not as random as we thought, but full of purpose and meaning. I know this man will be in my life as long as I can imagine. As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. We move from the personal world, giving up our individuality along the way, to become a plaything of the collective unconscious. Im always attracted to those types of relationships Nothing in astrology dictates your decisions. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. but the rising is scorpio. The synastry can show the true about our relationship, and the Davison also but less than synastry, but the Composite chart can show almost nothing. Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. I am NOT usually like this. New Classes and Courses Beginning In September! One, that planets energy can be confused and diffused in their lives, especially when in difficult aspect to other things in the composite. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. yeah, i think we didnt invest much efforts in getting/staying togetherhowever, when I tried to pursue more, I felt as if I was more needy and I cared more about this relationship, as his respose to my efforts was quite blank and gruff. How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? We also have composite venus in the 12th house. Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. The Inner Wheel Recommended Astrology Reading Lists, Crucible and the Wheel: The Transiting Nodes Series. My sun in the 3rd is squeezed in a T-square between Saturn in Pisces, in the 6th and Pluto/Uranus in Virgo, in the 12th. Is it possible that 2 people with so much 12th/water house activity; both within synastry and composite, there is any hope for them to just be normal and happy together without karma or something else getting in the way? any input would be greatly appreciated!!! We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! My husband and I, have composite Saturn 27 Pluto 28 Libra in 12th, forming a T square to our Sun 26 Cancer and Venus 19/Mercury 23 Capricorn. (Were married 16 years, and now we are old!) I fell onto another man after that whom I had a very deep dark sexual connection to and whom I shared a heavy 8th composite chart with.
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